Juno () - Plot Summary - IMDb
So I just watched Juno for the first time today, and I'm very very confused about child, its easy to see that he has a skewed view of the relationship. the thought that he's not ready to commit to the dad lifestyle and still wants. But I did leave somewhat confused as to what the relationship between Juno's character and the adoptive dad (Jason Bateman's character). He had a relationship with Paulie's mom before she married, anything from a fairly serious one which was broken off Paulie and Juno are Shadowcat's parents.
Obviously, that plan failed miserably. It would also explain why the " But We Used a Condom " counter argument was so weirdly averted.
Juno and Mark
The sex happened at Juno's house, right? In the start of the movie, Juno is standing outside drinking Sunny D, staring at the chair that she and Paulie We know she's not at Paulie's house, because she later takes that chair over to Paulie's front lawn.
I always assumed it was at Paulie's house. She's staring at a chair, yes, but there's no proof that it's the chair. Although I haven't seen the movie in a while, the way I saw it was that she was walking around the neighborhood drinking Sunny D while she waited for the need to pee so she could get a test, and on her walk she spotted a yard sale, and, seeing some of the items sitting on the lawn, decided that they would be a good way to break the pregnancy to Paulie. Because, you know, that's the way Juno thinks.
In my in mind the yard sale lady told her that if she came by later and the chair hadn't been sold, she could have it as long as she had the means to get it all off the lawn. I could be crazy, though.Джуно (с субтитрами)
Juno's stepmother is the Island Matriarch from Lost. After the events in Juno, her stepmother was called by the Island, then still under the control of Jacob, who recognized his own stepmother.
But during her "accidental" travel to the island, she was caught in a time travel phenomenon and ended up in the distant past, where she had to take up the position of keeper of the Island. She went insane because of missing her husband and daughter and stepdaughter, and because of not having pet dogs. When she found the pregnant mother of Jacob and MIB in 'Across the Sea' it was all too much because of the memories it brought back, and she finally totally snapped, with the consequences we all know.
Mark was actually the father of Juno's child Mark and Juno were having a inappropriate relationship long before they 'first meet', when she decided against abortion she told him she was planing on coming out in the open about them.
Mark knowing his barren wife wanted kids and than his dreams of rockdom would never happen if came out he was an Ephebophile suggested the adoption ruse as cover. Juno seems like enough of an tool to hook up with Paulie simply for Plausible Deniability. At that point in the film, you think that Vanessa is just an uptight pain in the ass.
Jason Bateman freaks out and tries to get her out of there before Vanessa gets in. Juno is like "what's the problem? On the way out of the house that time, Juno sees all the baby stuff and says "aren't you going to have a shower? Juno promises not to flake out, but Vanessa says they had an experience before. Jason Bateman chimes in really quickly and says "yeah, cold feet. Then he tries to make a move and Juno freaks out, at which point I think he says something like "oh I'm such an idiot.
That chain of events suggests to me that Vanessa was suspicious of Jason Bateman because he had messed up before.
The "messed up before," I think, may have been the cause of the cold feet for the previous mother hence the "did it again" comment. Which explains why Vanessa was so freaked out when Jason Bateman was so friendly with Juno at the initial meeting, and why Jason Bateman was so weird about Juno leaving when Vanessa got home at the second meeting, and why Vanessa was so suspicious and Jason Bateman so defensive at the third meeting.
Of course, this may all just be an absurd stretch, Vanessa may have been uptight about that stuff just because she was worried Juno would flake on them and didn't want Jason Bateman messing it up by becoming personally involved, and the Juno-Jason Bateman thing is probably purposely ambiguous, but I think it's a reasonable interpretation.
In my mind, of course, that entirely changes the tone or perhaps it complicates it - we could have a whole discussion about whether lip gloss is lipstick for romantic purposes. To me, the relationship was at least throughout most of the movie stereotypically geeky - that is, asexual.
The outcome of that relationship became counterintuitive in that it forced Juno to realize she was mature enough to enter a serious romantic relationship note that she dodged that opportunity with Beeker previously and it forced Mark to realize that he was not mature enough to be a father. Juno doesn't cry when she finds out that she's pregnant, when she tells her parents, when she's pissed at Beaker, at the ultrasound, etc. She only cries when she learns Mark and Vanessa are splitting up.
She gets upset, and then BIG spoiler alert violates her fantasy that her child will be raised by the traditional nuclear family. Cody is thus implying that such a fantasy is part of her childhood naivete. Perhaps there are clues in the screen direction?
I didn't realize screenplays are released like that. I saw the movie last week with my wife. As we watched the flick both of us had different ideas of his designs on her.
We bet a dollar on what his motivations were, my wife bet that he had sexual feelings for her and I bet that she was a way for him to regain his fading youth by being friends. It went back and forth for both of us till their last encounter. At this point I threw in the towel and gave my wife the dollar. The reason was that if you looked closely at the computer screen he was looking at, right as Juno rung the door bell the last time they met, he was looking at her MySpace page- there were pictures of her step mom and dog collection on the screen- his attraction to her was, at this point, changed in my mind.
He was up to something in his head far and away from being a caring older friend. He also admittedly questioned his motivations when her response to his intentions to leave his wife made him ask himself what he was thinking. It's the same reason that teenagers get obsessed with rock stars and other celebrities who they'll never meet. He appreciates her pop culture interests and treats her like an adult and is a cool, creative adult who's very unlike the uncool adults in her life.
He's also safe to have a crush on, because he's not going to reciprocate. And when he does reciprocate, her safe crush suddenly becomes something really squicky and dangerous.
Plus, she has a huge investment in the idea of Mark and Vanessa as a perfect family, and because she has pretty silly and immature ideas about what a perfect family looks like, she's hugely thrown by the revelation that Mark is fallible. I think the entire point of the movie is Juno coming to realize that "perfect families" don't exist, and that good enough families look like Juno's family, or like the family that Vanessa is about to create. An important step in this process is the revelation that Mark and Vanessa are not the wonderful couple that they appear like in their photo in Pennysaver.
To Mark, Juno represents his lost youth. She's not tied down by responsibilities or social conventions, at least as far as he can tell. She doesn't want anything from him, as far as he can tell, other than mix tapes.
The American Girl: Juno and the Idea of Family
She actually has a huge emotional investment in seeing him and Vanessa as perfect parents, but he's too self-involved and clueless to realize how much Juno wants from him. Vanessa represents to him the tedious demands of adulthood, and Juno is his fantasy of the freedom of youth. It doesn't help matters that she's cute and smart and very cool. Probably, Mark was never as cute and smart and cool as Juno, but she's what he fantasizes his adolescent self was like.
And he doesn't want to give it up. He wants to be the kind of guy who's with Juno, not Vanessa. I don't think that Mark would actually have tried to pursue anything romantic or sexual with Juno. But he's momentarily transfixed by the freedom and possibility that she represents. When she walks up their stairs and sees their pictures she chuckles, sort of degradingly.
And she seems to wander into their insecurities as a couple a few times befrore Patrick says he is leaving.
It sort of took me by surprise the way she reacted to it, thinking of them as perfect? Maybe it was when she saw Venessa playing with the kids in the mall?
And Juno's stepmom nicely telegraphs the "safe crush becoming reciprocal" squickiness in the scene where she tells Juno that Mark is a married man and Juno has overstepped a boundary.
Juno has little inkling of how she is being perceived by Mark. I thought the lipsmacker application scene was completely in character for a teenage girl - it's a flirtatious gesture, sure, but so transparently young particularly considering the context of the situation she, Mark and Vanessa are in. Diablo Cody is a member of a forum I regularly visit, and she has posted fairly frequently in the Juno Thread. She even answered what Vanessa ended up naming the baby: Of course, she's a lot busier these days, so not around as much.
Like others, I read it as he was certainly at least a little interested in Juno, and she got caught up in the "coolness" of this older guy. It's quite possible they changed this during shooting to accentuate the relationship, though. Worth finding out if so, because that would be a really neat detail I remember wondering what was on the screen but didn't see it for long enough to find out. My impression was definitely that the dad character was the one who had gotten cold feet last time, not the pregnant girl.
I could easily be wrong, though.
This is Why ‘Juno’ Bothers Me
My personal opinion is that the dad character developed sexual inclinations towards Juno by that point in the movie.
However, I would have reacted with "oh god" and "eww" even if I had thought he had no romantic interest in her. It's like that song, Glory Days.
Refusing to grow up by pretending that your adult responsibilities and commitments don't exist is annoying. There are more nuances that I don't have words for, but please don't think I'm dismissing all potential meanings of "refusing to grow up" as bad.
Hence the "ewww" reaction. I was not left with the impression that he had fantasies about her at all. I think that they were both feeling a little excitement of finding someone they could relate to at least superficially and that they both fought the tingle of sexual tension.
I think she served as a portal back the things he had forgotten he loved, that he had buried due to being in an unfulfilling relationship, and that she acted as a catalyst to the realization that he would never be happy with Vanessa. I never got any impression he wanted to leave his wife for Juno. I don't think he was immature or deluded and I think in the end he did the best thing for everyone. According to Diablo Cody, she specifically wrote that it was Dr Pepper lip gloss in the script, and a PA had to drive from the set in Canada to the United States to buy some for that scene.
It's not like you can't get it here. I've had it myself. The seduction of Bleeker was planned-- and there would have still been a movie if the rubber had broken. Whether or not he was leaving his wife FOR Juno, I think was left ambiguous, because it seemed that the character himself wasn't even ready to admit to that.
But I think his attraction to her goes beyond the fact that she is young and attracted to him. It's not that she's cute and funny and some sort of ego boost, she's more of a screaming wake-up call that he's married to the wrong person.
Juno and Mark | Juno's relationships with the Male characters
Juno herself obviously loves her dad, but there were points in the film where you could see she just wants him to get her in her teenage-hipness. Part of her character arc was learning that the totally geeky things her dad says to her about loving her always are true, even if he doesn't like guitars or horror films or whatever.
She's looking for a place to fit in, and Mark offers that, superficially-- but under the surface he doesn't, because his emotional growth is stunted. I'd argue partially by his capitulation to a subservient role in his relationship, but ymmv. There's an element of attraction there on both sides, but for Juno I'd suspect its not conscious at all. For him, she represents a chance to try again, more than a real fantasy that they're going to have a relationship.
I didn't think he was saying "I'm getting an apartment, it can be our love nest. It's there, but not explicit. If he had straight-up hit on her, that would have pushed his character into undeniably reprehensible territory. But it's not a lifetime movie--who wants it to be so morally black and white? So at the end of the movie, we see that the guy who seemed cool at first is actually not so cool, pretty immature, and maybe almost made a huge mistake by giving into a temptation that is natural to have but is his duty as the adult in the situation not to act on.
He's human, it's not the worst thing in the world, but it's not a good thing either. I must say I love how it ended.
And I loved Allison Janney. And I love Dr. I've seen other folks on the internet seemed confused about this, and I'm surprised. Do people really think it's OK for something married men to slow dance with underage girls in their basements?
And can you imagine coming home from work and finding your husband alone with a teenage girl who's running away from him and crying? Man, that scene was awesomely awkward. I thought it was completely obvious that there was a transference thing going on because of the nature of their relationship.
She was, in a very real sense, having his baby. She was having trouble finding intimacy with the biological father of her child, so she was looking for it with the adoptive father of her child. Similarly, Patrick felt he had a sort of dispensation to flirt with Juno because she was pregnant with 'his' child. This implied an awkward but unavoidable 'intimacy.
But the natural development of that friendship is of course going to turn to actual intimacy eventually. What was disappointing about Patrick's character wasn't that he was attracted to Juno.
It was that he took their intimacy to be more of a way to get his youth back, then to connect with the biological mother of his child. And it's also key that this recapturing of his youth is more important to him than his attraction to Juno specifically.
After all, he still leaves Vanessa, even when he knows that he his friendship with Juno is over. People are complicated, especially when it comes to things like their relationship with their own children, with their parents, and with those they're attracted to.
One of the reasons this is a good movie is that it takes that into consideration. It's a mistake to think that this question has one simple, obvious answer.
Juno and Patrick's relationship isn't supposed to be easy to explain; it's supposed to be easy to believe.