List of Captain Planet episodes | Revolvy
Never the twain shall meet—except, perhaps, in Scott's that the good people of Earth figured it was better for these dopes to die in. Now an arbitrageur, Peter ventures back to Never-Never Land after Captain Hook . Boffo-box-office director John Hughes's latest movie, Curly Sue, stars James Belu- shi as . Billed as a sort of Tempest meets Forbidden Planet (itself a Tempest There'll be witch-hunting on 48 NEW YORK/SEPTEMBER 23, The Never the Selves Shall Meet trope as used in popular culture. For some reason, encountering yourself—whether as a time-traveler or in Another .
Also, the first time Post-Crisis Supergirl met Power Girlshaking her hand caused Power Girl to suddenly go berserk and attack everyone. This was attributed to them being alternate universe counterparts and it making reality glitch out for a moment or something, but it hasn't happened since. It turns out Power Girl knew about the main DC Earth's version of Supergirl but didn't dare because she didn't want "the universe to explode if we touch.
Although Waverider of Armageddon had encountered his younger self as Matthew Ryder in without any problems, realizing from this that he was the superhero he met as a child who rescued him, he was tempted to make himself fully known to both his younger self and his parents in the Superman story "Time And Time Again Again", but he didn't because he realized that would disrupt events in the space-time continuum.
He did, however, meet with his alternate timeline self as the leader of the Linear Men, which at first turned out to be disastrous since when Waverider killed the other Matthew Ryder, he trapped himself, Superman, and the Linear Men in a Nullsphere, unable to leave until Waverider used Hunter's energy beam to alter time so that the other Matthew Ryder was never killed in the first place.
In Crisis on Infinite Earthsit becomes Never the Earths Shall Meet, as when the universes of Earths-1 and 2 are shunted into the Netherverse, they start slowly merging with each other, with the Monitor explaining that if they should occupy the same space together, they will annihilate each other.
The result of this merging is that all time becomes one, creating a "warp zone" between the Earths where all of Earth's history is mixed together in a strange hodgepodge.
The universes of Earths-4, S, and X also share the same problem, although the heroes realize that it is the Anti-Monitor that is causing the universes to merge together toward the end of mutual annihilation. It isn't until after the battle with the Anti-Monitor at the dawn of time that the multiple universes are safely merged together and rebooted as a single universe.
In Timecop, you can meet yourself and even talk to yourself, as long as you do not touch, because "the same matter can't occupy the same space at the same time". When the Big Bad does with the hero's "help"both selves melt and are erased from time.
Major Victory of the Marvel Universe specifically the 31st Century's Guardians of the Galaxyafter he travels back to the present, has to be careful about this with his shield, since it's Captain America 's from the future; it's established that if the present and future shields ever make contact, Bad Things will happen.
Oddly, this is not a problem when he meets his younger self. Major Vance Astro, in fact, sought out the younger Vance Astrovik to explicitly tell his younger self not to become an astronaut, thus avoiding the Bad Future of the Major's Alternate Timeline. As a result of the meeting, the younger Astrovik's powers developed early, and he went on to become Justice of the New Warriors. One Wolverine comic involves Jubilee going back in time. Her past self temporarily disappears. One version of the death of Justice Society of America villain Per Degaton who was split into two versions — one taking The Slow Paththe other gaining access to a Time Machine — in has him being disintegrated when he and his "chronal duplicate" finally meet up in the s.
This happened in an Infinity, Inc. In one anniversary edition of Spider-Man involving Doctor StrangeSpidey was successfully able to see his past self right before being bitten by the spider and listen to advice from his future self on what seemed to be the end of his career right before his future self is gunned down by the police for some unknown crime. Of course, seeing as the reason he was seeing this was because the fabric of reality was already in jeopardy because of Dormammu's plot to bring about the apocalypse, it's likely these two encounters couldn't have done any further damage.
The comic book version has a story where the Winx girls travel to the future. The scientist who invented the Time Machine discourages them from meeting their future selves because of this trope.
Sue Richards actually asks this when Franklin and a version of himself from the future are talking. The older Franklin, and his father Reed, stare at Sue like she asked the dumbest question ever. This is after young and old Franklin have interacted for a good long while, by the way.
Like two of the same object can't occupy the same space-time or the entire universe will implode Deadpan "That's not how it works. Fan Works Discussed in Spectacular Seven. Sunset Shimmer eventually meets her human counterpart, going under the alias Snake Queen Lamia. Once the two figure out that they're each other's counterpart, they try to avoid making contact for fear that "the universe might explode. In the "Phoenix Rising" chapter, Sunset does this again when Lamia is under the effects of Demonic Possession to regain her own memories, free Lamia, and fight off Moondancer.
Around the time Titanic came out, a lot of Doctor Who fanfics got written with the Doctor and co. There was a My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic fanfic which involved Rainbow Dash travelling in time to set herself and Applejack up. Eventually, because of this, she, Applejack, and Twilight Sparkle are all jumping through time trying to make sure the right versions of themselves meet at the right time.
It ends up with several dozen of each pony getting very confused. And then Scootaloo gets caught up too In On a Cross and Arrowthere's dimensional travel replacing time travel. Twilight ended up sending the Mane Six into an alternate dimension where everyone is gender-swapped versions of themselves. She feared that if they met their alternate selves, they would explode or something.
Thankfully, this isn't the case in the slightest.
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Due to this unusual variation, they're able to interact fine, without any problems, but when they make physical contact they start to fuse together which pretty much Mind Rapes them both. Fortunately, they break apart in time to avoid anything permanent, and while shaken, they're fine afterwards.
In The Twilight Childwhen a pony named Comet Chaser meets a version of himself from roughly twenty years into the future The Volatileverse explains reality cannot handle two people having the same aura signature without growing unstable. Jason Todd was able to cross dimensions and stay in another Earth than his because his counterpart averted Infant Immortality.
Films — Animation In Mr. Peabody warns Sherman not to travel to a timeline where you already exist. It turns out this is because two people from different timelines touching each other causes a potentially-catastrophic Reality-Breaking Paradox. Yellow Submarine has the Beatles and Old Fred traveling through the Sea of Time, at first regressing to childhood young adulthood in Old Fred's casewhich John corrects by moving the hands of the Sub's clock forwards.
As the team progresses, they see an identical yellow submarine with similar passengers: There's someone in it. It's a group of fellas. Maybe we're both part of a vast yellow submarine fleet. There's only two of us. Well, then I would suggest that yonder yellow submarine is none other than ourselves Averted in Meet the Robinsons at the end where Lewis meets his future self Cornelius Robinson, they even touch and nothing bad ever happens.
Twilight Sparkle's pony friends offer to follow her through the portal in My Little Pony: Then, in My Little Pony: The IDW comics on the other have an entire arc exploring the risks of this. Having too many counterparts in one universe throws off the balance between them, disrupting both and causing a Reality Bleed.
Films — Live-Action Back to the Futureas noted on the quotes page. Probably the Trope Codifier in film, despite the trope being less a hard and fast rule and more of a general guideline. In the movies, nothing worse than fainting happens, and both Doc and Biff seem able to avoid even that by averting their eyes from themselves, or maybe just by being prepared for it.
It seems that young Biff in the '50s had no basis to suspect that the "crazy old codger" was himself. It's also entirely possible that the "destroy the universe by temporal paradox" hypothesis was just that — a hypothesis, and there never was any real danger at all.
The two Bobs explain that Doc's concern is that the recognition of a past character meeting his or her future self could lead to an event that causes the paradox; for example, while the two Jennifers simply passed out when meeting each other, the producers explain that had "young" Jennifer fallen, hit her head and sustained a fatal injury she would not have had a future self to trigger the incident, resulting in a paradox. Likewise, in the video gamethe beginning of Episode 2 requires Marty to retrace his steps and keep his grandfather from getting killed while trying not to run into himself from a few hours ago during the events of Episode 1.
To make things even more confusing, the end of the final episode of the game has Marty arguing with Marty and Marty over which timeline is correct, while a confused Marty looks on. And yet Doc still says, while all of these Martys are having their little discussion, that them meeting each other could destroy the space-time continuum.
Still seems fine at the moment. The ride at Universal Studios ends with a frantic order from Doc to leave the DeLorean before you encounter your past self coming in. In Happy Accidents, Sam explains that it is impossible for time travelers to travel back within their own lifetimes; the only time travel possible is movement far into the past. In the film Southland Talesa huge part of the plot hinges on this twist, revealed late in the film: Two time-travel-created copies of the same person shake hands with each other, setting off the end of the universe.
Boxer Santaros avoids this as someone has already taken the care to murder his double. Or perhaps the original. By the end of the movie, Aaron has drugged his past self's breakfast and stowed him in the attic, and is then promptly attacked by yet another, future, version of himself. Spock Prime insists that Kirk cannot tell the younger Spock about his existence, with the heavy implication that some kind of universe-ending unpleasantness would ensue if he did.
Subverted at the end, when Spock Prime then seeks out and introduces himself to himself, and all-but-admits that he misled Kirk so that he and young Spock would develop the same friendship that existed between Spock Prime and the Kirk of his reality.
Super Capers seems to be fine with the two meeting each other, but if they physically touch each other When one character asks why they couldn't bring one of the Japanese WWII veterans they knew with them, since they'd know where the dinosaur would be, the Futurians who had the time machine explain that if the same person was in the same point in time twice, it would cause a paradox that would cause one or both of the person in question to be wiped from existence.
Played straight to gruesome effect in Timecop. Physical contact with your other self leads to As mentioned in the comic book entry, this is specifically due to the same matter occupying the same space; as long as they didn't touch, meeting was fine.
Meeting up with your past self in this movie does not cause the person in question to melt out of existence, but results in them fusing into straight-up Body Horror. In Project AlmanacQuinn draws a smiley face on his own neck in the past to test the ripple effect, waking himself up and causing both of them to start shifting in and out of existence.
Lucky for him, they manage to drag him away before it becomes permanent. Jessie has this happen to her completely near the end of the film, forcing David to go back to the beginning in an attempt to correct for all of it. You can end in a planet crammed with dinosaurs and a Cyborg half-human and half-robot asking about him, he replies he's you in a future after being combined with your robotic companion.
Accept your destiny and he'll disappear. Why is never explained, but at least once per book the plot hinges on one or more people being prohibited from entering a certain period of time minutes to hours because they were then sic already.
One very nice feature of this series is that several times the main character will race toward his time machine, immediately phase out of the time stream, and then relax: He reflects that he could spend literally years preparing to go back to the precise micro-second he left, so now there is no hurry at all.
In All Our Yesterdaysit's claimed that if past selves see their future selves, both will be erased from existence, but it's a lie intended to stall them. Meeting one's past self is warned against, but for pure caution's sake — never before have the selves met, so nobody can say for sure it wouldn't destroy the universe. Ends up subverted — Artemis meets himself, does battle with himself several times and Butler, who's arguably the more dangerous of the twoand eventually the two Artemises collaborate to bring down Opal Koboi.
The timeline seems harmed not at all, and there's evidence that it actually resulted in a Stable Time Loop leading to the events of the first book. In The Book of the New SunSeverian feels absolutely certain that if he accidentally met himself while time traveling, one or both of them would go mad and kill the other. In Anne McCaffrey 's Dragonriders of Pern novels, time-travel is generally exhausting, but is substantially more so when traveling near oneself.
This one's also an example in a Stable Time Loop world. Note that both selves will feel the effects. If you suddenly feel dizzy and weak for no reason, it might mean that future-you is in the vicinity.
Dragonlady of Pern, to stop a plague, Moreta and her dragon repeatedly loop back over the same time period. Though her appearances are in many different locations, the repeated trips prove lethal.
The most recent books imply that this problem is exclusive to dragonriders, and is the result of their telepathic bond with their dragon inadvertently becoming duplicated as a result of the time travel. This reaction is the reason Lessa survived Fax's attack on Ruatha Hold. When adult Lessa unwittingly traveled to the morning of the attack, child Lessa was awoken by the feeling of unease brought about by her adult self's presence and instinctively hid in the watch-wher's kennel.
In The End of Eternitythere are time periods in regular time allocated for an Eternal to use, and naturally, you are not to use them twice. However, when the protagonist goes into regular time illegally, he doesn't keep track as well, so he almost meets himself that is, he catches a glimpse of his past self. There don't seem to be any consequences, but he is extremely and irrationally terrified.
In Fortunately, the Milkthe time-traveling protagonist is repeatedly warned of the potentially disastrous consequences if the same object from two different points in time touches itself; nobody's entirely sure what the consequences would be, exactly, but the leading theory is that it would cause the destruction of the entire universe.
Inevitably, the climax of the story features an encounter between two versions of the same object, with dramatic — and entirely unexpected — consequences. One of the most important rules of Time Travel in Harry Potter? Don't be seen by yourself. You could panic and kill your past or future self.
Notable for not really being a result of time travel so much as just being a duplicate. Though not spelled out explicitly in the books, this could have something to do with the existence of Polyjuice Potion — in most non-time-travel related situations where you notice a duplicate of yourself, it means someone's up to no good.
As Harry's own experience with Time Travelwhich was the only one the readers were able to follow, turned out to be a Stable Time Loopthe killing-your-past-self thing is unlikely to ever happen.
Ford who had, in the previous novel, explained to Arthur that history cannot be changed because it all fits together like a jigsawwarns Arthur against phoning to warn himself. Not because it'll do anything to the timestream, but just because it won't work. It had already been noted in The Restaurant at the End of the Universe that no matter how many times you visit the restaurant in the title, which you would always do in the universe's last half-hour or so, you are guaranteed to never run into yourself "because of the embarrassment this usually causes," despite this being impossible.
How the people responsible for the restaurant's operation pull this off is not explained, but it is lampshaded magnificently along with other things about Milliways by the Guide's repeated use of the phrase "This is, of course, impossible", and the restaurant's advertising slogan: It's still enough to shake the time travelling Johnny: No-one's done that since the Spanish Inquisition!
A Sudden Wild Magic has an example similar to the Stargate one below — travel into alternate universes is possible, but causes instant death for anyone with a counterpart in that universe. In Charmed Lifethe character who manages to travel into an alternate universe does so via a method which cyclically displaces all her alternate selves, so every universe that had a version of her continues to do so. In fact, the main qualification for Chrestomancithe enchanter who keeps all the other magic users in line, is that he have nine lives.
This makes it possible for him to go to other universes comparatively easily: But in A Tale of Time CityVivian, Jonathan and Sam manage to be on the same railway platform in three different incarnations at the same moment and nothing happens - although they're careful not to be seen, it's just in case they change history.
More than they already have, anyway. Hinted to normally be the case for the Eternal Champion in Michael Moorcock 's related stories. Different incarnations do meet each other and even team up from time to time under suitably unusual circumstances, but once the emergency allowing for the encounter passes they inevitably have to part ways again shortly thereafter sometimes downright abruptly to avoid putting too much unspecified strain on the multiverse.
When Kahlil arrives in a Basawar where history was changed, the version of himself in the new time is already dead. He does have two sets of memories coexisting confusingly in his head, though. Eventually, he finds the bones of his other self and they merge into his body; at the same time, he feels like his two histories have become truly integrated into one personality. In one of the R Is For Rocket stories, a man participating in a time-travel safari has this explained to him. The 'bump' they felt just before arrival was the time machine leaving at the end of the safari, the tour guide explains that "Nature doesn't allow that kind of thing- man meeting himself".
In a Sonic the Hedgehog novelisation Sonic the Hedgehog in the Fourth Dimensionolder and younger selves could co-exist, but not touch: Sonic did this "Now I'm twice as cool". He also did this with the evil anti-SonicCinoscausing some alarm as to whether good or evil would win out in the resulting Sonic. Imaginary creatures threatening to rewrite history kept people from asking too many questions. Rigidly attached to and projecting from each side of the upper rim of the belt is a strong, light wing with small hand levers for quickly altering its position.
He showed me how to tilt the wings downward in walking so that I would not leave the ground at every step, and thus he led me to the edge of the landing stage. Again, this scene is vividly depicted by Frank R. Paul at ERBzine It had, I should say, a capacity of some two hundred persons and was built like a large camera obscura; the audience sitting within the instrument, their backs towards the lens and in front of them, filling one entire end of the room, a large ground glass upon which is thrown the image to be observed.
Just above the chart was a movable arm carrying a pointer. This pointer Mu Tel moved until it rested upon the planet Earth, then he switched off the light in the room and immediately there appeared upon the ground glass plate a view such as one might obtain from an airplane riding at an elevation of thousand feet. Vad Varo witnesses a devastated landscape and asks if the pointer can be directed to another locality: Place this pointer where you will upon the globe and that portion of Jasoom will be revealed to you.
Vad Varo discovers that the allies won the war and is happy it is over because they fought for a great principle, to which Mu Tel replies: Were it not for constant warring of one form of life upon another, and even upon itself, the planets would be so overrun with life that it would smother itself out.
We found upon Barsoom that long periods of peace brought plagues and terrible diseases that killed more than the wars killed and in a much more hideous and painful way. There is neither pleasure nor thrill nor reward of any sort to be gained by dying in bed of a loathsome disease. We have tried it out upon Barsoom and we would not be without war. They believe that no good deed was ever performed except for a selfish motive; they have no god and no religion; they believe, as do all educated Barsoomians, that man came originally from the Tree of Life, but unlike most of their fellows they do not believe that an omnipotent being created the Tree of Life.
Vad Varo finds much to criticize about this philosophy, finding them, despite their vaunted view of science, that they are much in the same way as religious fanatics, and thus unbalanced. Vad Varo decides it is time to go to Phundahl and fulfill his plan to return the rightful body to Valla Dia.
They take a flier and head out for Phundahl, are stopped by a Toonlian patrol, but are helped on their way for the Toonlians hold Gor Vajus in high regard.
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They reach Phundahl undetected and enter the storage area district where there is little traffic. They eat, entertain the crowd with Hovan Du, who pretends to be a performing ape, and then head for a place of lodging. But before they reach it, Dar Tarus of Phundahl, feels obligated to perform his religious obligations. What passes is the funniest poke at organized religion I have ever read: When I asked him why, he told me that this was a temple of Tur, the god worshipped by the people of Phundahl.
I shall not keep you waiting long. Gor Hajus, will you loan me a few pieces of gold? Dar Tarus gave me two of the gold pieces that he had borrowed from Gor Hajus and told me to follow directly behind him and do whatever I saw him doing. Directly inside the main entrance, and spread entirely across it at intervals that permitted space for the worshippers to pass between them, was a line of priests, their entire bodies, including their heads and faces, covered by a mantle of white cloth.
In front of each was a substantial stand upon which rested a cash drawer. As we approached one of these we handed him a piece of gold which he immediately changed into many pieces of lesser value, one of which we dropped into a box at his side; whereupon he made several passes with his hands above our heads, dipped one of his fingers into a bowl of dirty water which he rubbed upon the ends of our noses, mumbled a few words which I could not understand and turned to the next in line as we passed on into the interior of the great temple.
Never have I seen such a gorgeous display of wealth and lavish ornamentation as confronted my eyes in this the first of the temple of Tur that it was my fortune to behold. But on with the show: Some of these images were of men and some of women and many of them were beautiful; and there were others of beasts and of strange, grotesque creatures and many of these were hideous indeed.
The first that we approached was that of a beautiful female figure; and about the pedestal of this lay a number of men and women prone upon the floor against which they bumped their heads seven times and then arose and dropped a piece of money into a receptacle provided for that purpose, moving on then to another figure. The next that Dar Tarus and I visited was that of a man with the body of a silian, about the pedestal of which was arranged a series of horizontal wooden bars in concentric circles.
The bars were about five feet from the floor and hanging from them by their knees were a number of men and women, repeating monotonously, over and over again, something that sounded to me like, bibble-babble-blup. I asked Dar Tarus what the words were that we had repeated and what they meant, but he said he did not know. I asked him if anyone knew, but he appeared shocked and said that such a question was sacrilegious and revealed a marked lack of faith.
At the next figure we visited the people were all on their hands and knees crawling madly in a circle about the pedestal. Seven times around they crawled and then they arose and put some money in a dish and went their ways. I see now that that is merely one of your idols. I shall soon be through and we may join our companions. It had a long tail and the breasts of a woman. About this image were a great many people, each standing upon his head. At that they said, Tur is Tur; while at this they absolutely reversed it and said, Tur is Tur.
Do you not see? They turned it right around backwards, which makes a very great difference. If this was not hilarious to you, then you lack faith. But, wait, the fun is not over. Vad Varo asks Dar Tarus to explain the religion of Tur to him, for he is fascinated by the mysteries of religion: It is simple, natural, scientific and every word and work of it is susceptible of proof through the pages of Turgan, the great book written by Tur himself.
There, one hundred thousands of years ago, he made Barsoom and tossed it out into space. Then he amused himself by creating man in various forms and two sexes; and later he fashioned animals to be food for man and each other, and caused vegetation and water to appear that man and the animals might live. Do you not see how simple and scientific it all is? He said that the Phundalians maintained that Tur still created every living thing with his own hands.
They denied vigorously that man possessed the power to reproduce his kind and taught their young that all such belief was vile; and always they hid every evidence of natural procreation, insisting to the death that even those things which they witnessed with their eyes and experienced with their own bodies in the bringing forth of their young never transpired.
They would not leave Phundahl far for fear of falling off the edge of the world; they would not permit the development of aeronautics because should one of their ships circumnavigate Barsoom it would be a wicked sacrilege in the eyes of Tur who made Barsoom flat.
Giving, as they do, all their best thought to religious matters, they have become ignorant, bigoted and narrow, going as far to one extreme as the Toonolians do to the other.
But I will allow the reader to enjoy that on his or her own, the main point of this discourse being finished. Wells dealt with unethical medical research and the horrors of vivisection in The Island of Dr. Moreau inwith which I am sure ERB was acquainted. Moreau had been ostracized out of his country when the gruesome details of his research came to light. The narrator, an admirer of research, comments early in the novel, before the full facts of the island are made known: The doctor was simply howled out of the country.
It may be he deserved to be, but I still think the tepid support of his fellow investigators, and his desertion by the great body of scientific workers, was a shameful thing. Yet, some of his experiments, by the journalists account, were wantonly cruel. He might perhaps have purchased his social peace by abandoning his investigations, but he apparently preferred the latter, as most men would have once fallen under the overmastering spell of research.
Moreau explains his philosophy to the narrator: That is the only way I ever heard of research going. Was this possible, or that possible? You cannot imagine what this means to an investigator, what an intellectual passion grows upon him.
You cannot imagine the strange colorless delight of these intellectual desires. The thing before you is no longer an animal, a fellow-creature, but a problem. The study of Nature makes a man at last as remorseless as Nature. This is the logic of the Nazi doctors who experimented on human beings during the Third Reich, even though modern medicine advanced by leaps and bounds as a result of it.
Vad Varo assesses Ras Thavas similarly: He was never intentionally cruel. He was not, I am sure, intentionally wicked. Though I know that I am safe in saying that he was never prompted to a cruel or criminal act by base motives, neither was he ever urged to a humanitarian one by high motives. He had a purely scientific mind entirely devoid of the cloying influences of sentiment, of which he possessed none. His was a practical mind, as evidenced by the enormous fees he demanded for his professional services; yet I know that he would not operate for money alone and I have seen him devote days to the study of a scientific problem the solution of which could add nothing to his wealth, while the quarters that he furnished his waiting clients were overflowing with wealthy patrons waiting to pour money into his coffers.
I offered a problem. We face the same dilemma today with single cell stem research. We must beware the extremes of both Toonol and Phundahal as we move forward on this great quest. The whole idea of brain transplants ERB raised in this story is gripping in the metaphysical dilemma it poses.
Where does the soul dwell, if there is one?
Or is it that part of a person that is indispensable to an individual? I remember when the first heart transplant was accomplished.