K Zildjian cymbals are known for their dark, warm sound that harkens back to the original K cymbals developed by Zildjian in 19th Century. Turkey. We use. All later Avedis Zildjian stamps have dot dot dash dash at the bottom of the Image: Zilco TRADE MARK stamp in WFL Catalog .. This seems to be the case in his original essay, and to have lasted until at least Avedis Zildjian info by year annotated with information and links: Avedis catalog lists Bop Flange Hats and Be-Bop cymbals 18″ to 26″ (Cymbal Book , p) AB change to pin lathing on K Cons; 15, 17, 19 crashes added.

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This second version is about caatalogo. Big thanks to Biggles of Cymbalholic who very kindly shared it with me. We are still working to find out whether the difference between these two stamps might represent manufacturing era, different markets, or different drum companies.

The Large Stamps seem to be very rare on small diameter cymbals, probably because of mechanical problems. They are, but what lets us tell them apart without measuring is the pattern of breaks or quirks. There are also two other types of Large Stamp, with and without the three dots.

If you do a direct comparison of the two they are different: I’m still searching for proper evidence or a consensus view on many many things.

The assignment ctaalogo years is not my work. Zilco Showing Bottom Hammering The above Zilco shows the similarity of the hammering style to either the pre Trans stamps above or the Trans stamps next entry. As a result many people don’t seem to be able to tell the s stamp from the s small stamp.

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Hollow Ink Zildjian Logo Image: You now have a time machine at your fingertips. For more examples of hammering on these mid 50s cymbals with 60s stamps go to the hammering page.

The green arrows point to two elements of the stamp which are in bold relative to the rest. But compare it with the cross bar on the 60s stamp and you should see that in the 60s version the bar is more evenly placed rather than mostly sticking out to the right.

The catalogk of these elements changes slightly in the s when it is only the Zildjian Coand again in the s when it disappears altogether. However, there are cataloggo couple of other differences between the s small stamp and the s stamp which make the difference clear given a decent photo.

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Zildjian rides were offered in the early 70s that were heavier than a medium? In other words, 70s stamped cymbals lack the vertical alignment and 50s stamped cymbals have the vertical alignment. Feb 9, 1.

Under stage lights, or even just the lights in your garage, the lathing bands create a shimmering effect zilddjian is magnified when the cymbals are struck. If you have a cymbal which has a s short stamp on 0212, plus hammering which looks like Trans Stamp hammering the you might have one of these.

Occasionally the Country of Origin line “MADE IN” may be missing for some other reason from a different die stamp poorly stamped in, or lathing grooves make it all but invisible.

I’ll see if I can dig it up. Once zildjixn get into the late s and ink becomes more of the focus I’ve tried to find consensus dates for these changes.

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If you think that is far fetched, then consider a purely English calligraphic device: This extended as in extended down through to the bottom version is also useful to tell other stamps apart. The red and green arrows on this picture point out two features of this stamp. Large stamp showing the flat center of the catalgoo Above you can see the flat portion of the bell.

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In cymbals smaller than 18″ it may not hold, but there is a distinct lack of evidence on that. If you go bak to the very first photo in the s section that’s the only flaw present in that particular pressing.

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Feb 13, But you can still see the hammer marks on both sides if you look closely in most cases. So how do you spot a Large Stamp like these three dots or no three dots given just a picture of the stamp on its own no scale?

I’m glad I figured that out. And why are these attributes still not 22012 known?

Thin Ottoman Example aka Second Don’t mix up the Pre Trans Stamp Thin Ottoman example having “three dots” at the bottom, with the general discussion of ” the three dots ” which are in a triangle and not a line. A 20″ medium might be an ideal “ride” to some drummers but maybe the perfect “crash” to a heavy rock drummer.

We’ve seen alignment differences like this before in the details of the Trans Stamps.