As if they were speaking for God - when do prophets and apostles speak for God?
Prophets receive revelation from God, preach His gospel, and lead His Church realize is that there are again prophets on earth—speaking on behalf of God today! and the Twelve Apostles speak to the world twice a year during a meeting. For more about today's apostles and prophets, visit az-links.info met with members, missionaries, and leaders in Resistencia and Corrientes, Argentina. Meet Today's Prophets and Apostles. Second Counselor in the First Presidency. M. Russell Ballard. Acting President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles.
Accordingly, we now want to put in place organizational adjustments that will further fortify our members and their families. President Nelson and Elder Cook were the opening speakers of the morning session, the first of three on the initial day of the th Semiannual General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, often called the Mormon church. The church had been testing the new curriculum in congregations around the world with success, Elder Cook said.
One pilot program was in Brazil and others were reported in Iowa and Tooele. Leaders also considered a study that found that individual scripture study and prayer did the most to help young Latter-day Saints feel the influence of the Holy Ghost, Elder Cook said. Our efforts over these recent years hallow the Sabbath — to make it a delight and a personal sign to God of our love for him — will be augmented by the adjustments we will now introduce.
Family activity night can still be held on Mondays. Gospel learning at home will be enhanced by a harmonized curriculum with "Come, Follow Me" manuals for home — organized for a weekly schedule — adult classesAaronic Priesthood, Young Women and Primary.
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The new plan will begin in January to give the church time to distribute the manual and allow local leaders to change meetinghouse schedules. One goal is to have more wards begin earlier in the day. Elder Cook said leaders should consider how to emphasize spiritual priorities over administrative function during the condensed Sunday meetings. As they considered the change, he also said church leaders were mindful that the three-hour block of services now in place can be difficult for elderly members, parents with small children, Primary children, new converts and others.
The announced revelation about a "home-centered church" was bolstered by strong words of testimony and support from those who followed Saturday morning, including President Dallin H. Oaks of the First Presidency who noted that, "modern revelation defines truth as a 'knowledge of things as they are, as they were, and as they are to come.
Eternal relationships are also fundamental to our theology. Bednar and Ronald A. Church organizations and programs exist to bless individuals and families and are not ends in themselves. The term often used in such discussions is "infallible" 'incapable of error,' Merriam-Webster online dictionary. Are prophets incapable or error? Joseph Smith is recorded as saying, "I visited with a brother and sister from Michigan, who thought that 'a prophet is always a prophet'; but I told them that a prophet is a prophet only when he was acting as such.
Common sense also dictates that no human is infallible, whether a prophet or not. Instead of focusing on infallibility, disagreements between differing words spoken by different prophets should instead focus on if and when prophets spoke God's word or their own thoughts.
Without knowing this, how is a member to know when a prophet's words are wheat and when they are chaff; doctrine or advice; divine or human? On August 17,the First Presidency released a statement saying, The attitude of the Church with reference to Negroes remains as it has always stood. It is not a matter of the declaration of a policy but of direct commandment from the Lord, on which is founded the doctrine of the Church from the days of its organization, to the effect that Negroes may become members of the Church but that they are not entitled to the priesthood at the present time.
LDS prophets repeatedly reaffirmed that African Americans couldn't receive the priesthood in many official settings. Joseph Smith's statement that "a prophet is a prophet only when he was acting as such" seems to fly in the face of the First Presidencies ofand who were clearly acting in their capacity as prophets when they gave their official statements, only to be retracted by a later prophet. It cannot be both it was God's will and it was not God's will. How could prophets think they spoke God's word while acting in official capacities, only for us to find out they were speaking theories?
Why did these men speak as if they were speaking for God? Where was God's word in correcting such a grievous error that caused untold numbers of His children to be deprived of receiving the blessings of the priesthood? It's ironic that in the First Presidency Statement, they say that the "reasons [for not allowing blacks the priesthood] we believe are known to God,"—they here admit that they do not know if God knows the reason— then later in the same letter they specifically declared the role revelation played in their statement—"revelation assures us" it is God's will that blacks be denied the priesthood because of their behavior in the "pre-existence.
There are few choices to make sense of the contradiction the essay uncovers: The latter seems to be the position the Church takes when it says things like, we don't know why God wants it this way, but He does. See for example the First Presidency quote that "for reasons which we believe are known to God, but which He has not made fully known to man" as referenced in footnote 3 One day He will fix it, but He hasn't told us when. Regardless of the reason, why was an omnipotent God lax in correcting the errors?
Why would an all-knowing God allow prophets to teach theories He knew would cause confusion? Why would a God who reveals His secrets to prophets not reveal this information? For men who interpret the mind and will of God, why weren't they?
If the prophets were not speaking God's word, they were leading the people astray. Russell Ballard directly contested this idea that prophets, seers and revelators can lead people astray when he said "…the leaders of the Church…will not and cannot lead you astray.
Russell Ballard, General Conference, October The Lord will never permit me or any other man who stands as President of this Church to lead you astray. It is not in the programme. It is not in the mind of God. If I were to attempt that, the Lord would remove me out of my place, and so He will any other man who attempts to lead the children of men astray from the oracles of God and from their duty. Reported in Deseret Evening News, October 11,p.
Canon is the epitome of God's word in LDS theology: Since this manifesto has been printed in the Doctrine and Covenants. If this statement from Woodruff that "the Lord will never permit [the] President of this Church to lead you astray" is false doctrine, there has been plenty of time for correction.
Yet it stands as more proof against what is learned in the essay: God's prophets led people astray with their own theories concerning blacks and the priesthood. Of those 14, the following are relevant to the discussion: The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
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The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time. The prophet does not have to say "Thus Saith the Lord," to give us scripture. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer. I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. When Benson "testif[ied] that these fourteen fundamentals…are true," what did he mean?
What testimony did he have? How did he receive that testimony? In the LDS Church, one testifies when they know that the things they are speaking are the truth because the spirit has provided that confirmation. And that leaves an important choice for the member: Ezra Taft Benson was wrong, and he testified of something that was not true, meaning he lied or was deceived, or these fourteen fundamentals are indeed true principles.
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Some claim that the "Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet" are not doctrinal. However, there has been ample time for erroneous doctrine found there to have been officially corrected. Additionally, the Church allows references to the "Fourteen Fundamentals" in their official publications, thereby endorsing the words and doctrine found in that talk as official.
As of 10 December general conference talks, magazines and manuals published by the Church quote from Benson's "Fourteen Fundamentals" at least 19 times. The voice of God through His prophets on these matters was spoken as doctrine. The essay says they weren't.